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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Mar 10 Avr - 15:30

Selon le site Ultimate Classic Rock, le groupe jouerait 1 date aux USA, au festival Lolapalooza qui se déroulera du 3 au 5 aout. Mais rien n'est confirmé.

l'affiche complète sera dévoilée demain

http://www.planetrock.com/news/rock-news/sabbath-rumoured-for-us-festival/
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Ven 13 Avr - 10:56

Paris 1970 http://youtu.be/o_ht9skgEF0
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Ven 13 Avr - 12:32

Merci qui? Merci Marcel.
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Ven 13 Avr - 16:40

Merci Marcel. cheers
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Mer 18 Avr - 15:02

Nouveau livre sur le Sab :



BLACK SABBATH, La légende
Black Sabbath est une légende. Tout comme ses membres fondateurs : son chanteur Ozzy Osbourne, son guitariste Tony Iommy, et pour les férus du groupe, son bassiste et parolier Geezer Butler et son batteur Bill Ward. Dès son premier album éponyme, Black Sabbath, sorti le vendredi 13 février 1970, ce groupe formé à Birmingham en 1968 décrocha un disque d’or aux États-Unis, tandis que le suivant, Paranoid, fut plusieurs fois certifié platine. Et il en fut ainsi pour les dix premiers albums du groupe. Pilier, voire pionnier du heavy metal, Black Sabbath n’a depuis cessé de tracer sa voie singulière et de développer un son caractéristique, littéralement lourd (d’aucuns diront proto-doom), auquel l’accident de Iommy n’est pas étranger. Le reste appartient à la légende, et tout est dans… Black Sabbath, La Légende…
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Jeu 19 Avr - 8:35

Petite anecdote: dans "Avengers", Robert Downey Jr apparait avec un T-Shirt de Black Sabbath.
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Dim 22 Avr - 12:31



Sur tutube, je viens de dégoter une version acoustique assez étonnante de Spiral Architect interprétée par Phil Schenker-Mackrakken. La vidéo aurait également été envoyée à Geezer Butler, Bilou et Tony Iommi. A vous de juger !!!
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Lun 23 Avr - 16:31

Vinnie Appice a déclaré qu'il ne rejoindra pas Black Sabbath pour l'album et la tournée et qu'il préfère se consacrer à son nouveau groupe Kill Devil Hill (qui entre nous n'est pas terrible du tout, du sous sous sous Alice In Chains )

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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Sam 28 Avr - 13:18

RJDio a écrit:
Petite anecdote: dans "Avengers", Robert Downey Jr apparait avec un T-Shirt de Black Sabbath.

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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Lun 30 Avr - 22:24

Le Sab annonce un warm-up show sans doute à Birmingham dans deux semaines pour bien préparer le Download.

Sabbath Announce Download Warm Up

They will play a hometown show in two weeks
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Mer 2 Mai - 5:50

Black Sabbath vient d’annoncer un nouveau concert de leur prochaine tournée " réunion ".

Une tournée qui, pour rappel, avait été écourtée suite à l’annonce de la maladie du guitariste Tony Iommi, actuellement en traitement. Ce concert lancera la mini-tournée et aura lieu à l’O2 Academy de Birmingham, ville originaire du groupe, le 19 mai prochain. Pas de changement pour la plupart des autres concerts qui étaient prévus en Europe, ceux-ci restent remplacés par des concerts d’" Ozzy & Friends ", durant lesquels on retrouvera sur scène Ozzy Osbourne entouré de musiciens prestigieux tels que le guitariste Zakk Wylde, Slash ou encore Geezer Butler, le bassiste de Black Sabbath.

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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Dim 13 Mai - 19:01

Encore une compil le 4 juin :

The 14-song collection features classic tracks from across Black Sabbath's first eight albums — including tunes from 1970's debut "Black Sabbath" and follow-up "Paranoid", 1971's "Master Of Reality", 1972's "Volume 4", 1973's "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" and 1978's "Never Say Die".

It is released on 4 June, a few days ahead of the band's headline show at Download.

01. Paranoid (from Paranoid)
02. Iron Man (from Paranoid)
03. Changes (from Volume 4)
04. Fairies Wear Boots (from Paranoid)
05. War Pigs (from Paranoid)
06. Never Say Die (from Never Say Die)
07. Children Of The Grave (from Master Of Reality)
08. The Wizard (from Black Sabbath)
09. Snowblind (from Volume 4)
10. Sweet Leaf (from Master Of Reality)
11. Evil Woman (Don't Play Your Games) (from Black Sabbath)
12. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (from Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)
13. Black Sabbath (from Black Sabbath)
14. N.I.B. (from Black Sabbath)
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Mar 15 Mai - 20:46

Pas de Bilou sur les dates de Birmingham, du Download et du Lollapalooza :

Dear Sabbath Fans and Fellow Musicians,

I sincerely regret to inform you that after a final effort to participate in the upcoming Sabbath shows a failure to agree has continued. At this time I have to inform you that I won’t be playing with Black Sabbath at the Birmingham gig dated May 19th, 2012, nor will I be playing at Download on June 10th, 2012. Further, I will not be playing at Lollapalooza on August 3, 2012.

It is with a very sad heart that I bring you this news. I am sincerely passionate in my desire to play with the band, and I’m very, very sorry that it’s fallen to this. This statement is even more painstaking to write, as I was particularly excited to play alongside Tony Iommi after the recent treatments he underwent. I wanted that to become a reality.

To express my thoughts about you, the Sabbath fans, I’m going to speak to you all through an experience my brother James had recently. My brother Jimmy lives in the U.K. When speaking with him a couple of days ago, he told me that an acquaintance had stopped him on the street and confronted him, “is your brother playing Birmingham? What’s going on? I waited in line with my son and paid x amount for the concert tickets.”

The man’s son is a young drummer. He’s going to see Sabbath, and he wants to see Bill Ward play drums. Upon hearing this news, I felt horrible. I couldn’t help feeling some resentment towards the failure to reach an agreement, the failure to remember where we came from, the failure to be as brothers, as we once were. To be clear, I’m not blaming the other guys or finding any faults with them. I would think it can’t be easy for them either, but this situation is just really sad. It’s sad that it’s come to this. “This” will surely leave a mark and be unwelcome to the memory. Hopefully “this” will heal and pass in time.

My heart sank when Jimmy told me about this young boy. I know this boy is going to be disappointed, and I don’t know how to amend it, other than to put my arms around the boy and tell him I love him. Sabbath fans have a voice and a face, to me you’re human, you have families and despair. You have ferocity and emotions and graciousness, and at this moment as far as I’m concerned you are also that young boy in England. I don’t know how to amend my part in these failings other than to put my arms around you and say I love you and let you know I’m very, very sorry.

Throughout this process, which began over a year ago, I have had to stand up for myself time and time again. I have had to stand up for myself and in doing so realize my actions indirectly, although unintentionally, are upsetting and hurting a lot of you. I know in my heart I couldn’t have done these concerts by agreeing the terms suggested. I made a solemn vow after the last European and Ozzfest concerts that I would never again enter into what was, in my opinion, a totally unsatisfactory contract. I have to stand for something, and as painful as it is, I’m doing it.

Earlier in April 2012, I’d been asked to participate “minimally” in the Download festival. I believe I’d been offered no more than three songs to play while another drummer presumably played the rest of the show with Black Sabbath. I was not willing to participate in that offer. I was not prepared to watch another drummer play a Sabbath set, while I was to play only three songs.

I found out about the Birmingham gig on Monday, April 30 through the Internet ad. I was taken aback somewhat by the date, and the fact it was Birmingham. Knowing the “signable” contract negotiations were at best in shreds, I was upset by the idea that the band was going to play Birmingham and play it assumedly without me. I had no prior knowledge of the date and location, and I felt totally excluded. We contacted the representative for Black Sabbath to see if something could be worked out. In the meantime my drum crew and I, along with our US endorsers, finished all the necessary planning for a swift departure to the UK. There wasn’t a whole lot to complete; we’d all been on standby more or less since mid-January 2012. The remaining work in the UK was confirmed done by our European and UK endorsers and we were good to go by Friday, May 4 2012. There were two stress points: firstly, getting an agreement in place, and secondly, getting to England in a timely manner. Jetlag time was taken into account as well as drum practice, a drum practice room in the heart of Birmingham, accommodation, and travel arrangements were all in place to meet with any band rehearsals that may have transpired before the Birmingham show. So far everything that had been arranged was on my dime, but we didn’t move ahead without a realistic confirmation.

Communications between the representative and my lawyer continued through the weekend of May 5 finalizing on Wednesday, May 9. The offer we received on May 9 was, “come to the UK, play for free and see how the first show goes.” I was tempted. Playing for free would not have been a problem for me, but “seeing how the first show goes” left an element of risk which could have affected Download. My ideal thought was to play in full the Birmingham show, in full Download, and in full Lollapalooza.

I had notified the representative that May 10 was my cutoff day in order to have good lead-in time for England. On the night of May 9 I asked for a brief letter to be sent to the representative asking to find out if we were at an end. On the morning of Thursday, May 10, I received a reply in the affirmative. After consulting with my advisors and crew a decision was made to let go and stop.

I can’t prioritize the Sabbath fans making one show more important than the other. I can’t do that. All of you are important. It’s all the gigs or none at all. I can’t come to Birmingham and “see what happens” knowing there is a risk of not being able to play Download or Lollapalooza. Again, for me, it’s all or nothing. I had to say “no” to Birmingham on the principle of wanting to play all the shows. Saying no to Birmingham is very difficult for me. My family grew up in Birmingham. Black Sabbath grew up in Birmingham. It’s still my hometown and I resent having to arrive at such a difficult choice.

Although the statement was made that, “the door is always open” for me, as explained above, walking through that door is not always as easy as it sounds. There are many complicated issues and unseen and unspoken agendas on hand. I can assure you, my criteria for a “signable” contract is based in mindful principles, respectability, and acknowledgement of my history within the band.

I hold no malice or resentment towards the other band members. I love them; I’m tolerant of them; I’m frustrated with them, as they may be with me. My fight has never been with them. I’ll love them forever. In my opinion, nobody wins this time; the band doesn’t win; the fans for an original lineup don’t win. Nobody wins, nobody. Even the ones who thought they did.

I didn’t want to make this decision, but I have to be honest and transparent. This is the statement I didn’t want to write; it’s the last thing I wanted to do. But, I have written it, and now it can go into the universe.

Since Spring of 2011, I’ve waited patiently and hopefully for a signable contract, you know the rest. I stand for the boy in the U.K., for the coming drum student, for all the drummers, who write their parts out and get stiffed on the publishing, I stand with the Sabbath fans chanting “Bill Ward” and asking “why?” and I stand with Tony and Geezer and Ozzy.

On a final note, even though I’m at an end with the upcoming announced concerts, I will remain with an open mind and a position of willingness to negotiate "signable" terms with Sabbath’s representatives in the future.

Stay strong.
Stay safe.

With all my heart and strength, I love you,
Bill Ward

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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Ven 18 Mai - 14:17

Aucun communiqué n'a été transmis sur l'identité du batteur qui remplacera Bilou pour leurs trois concerts. Quelques noms ont néanmoins circulé comme ceux de Tommy Clufetos (batteur d' Ozzy), Mike "je bouffe à tous les rateliers" Portnoy et le batteur de Slipknot, Joey Jordison. Par ailleurs, il semble que le groupe ait décidé de ne pas réagir au message du batteur confirmant que ce dernier ne participait pas à la reformation. Selon les membres du groupe, dans tout conflit, il y a toujours deux versions :

No word on who will replace their drummer for their three dates, but they insist there is another side to the story

The band have responded to Bill Ward's statement from earlier this week which confirmed that he was definitely not taking part in the reunion shows by saying that they will recruit a substitute for these gigs.

"We have decided not to make any detailed comment on Bill's latest statement. There are two sides to every story. We have been working hard at rehearsals making excellent progress after Tony's treatments and we have engaged a substitute drummer for the forthcoming shows. See you at Download."

There's no word on who the replacement will be, but amongst the names on the entirely speculative rumour mill so far are Ozzy drummer Tommy Clufetos, Mike Portnoy and Slipknot's Joey Jordison.
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Ven 18 Mai - 16:56

'tin , ils ont viré Bilou du site officiel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a Face Shocked

http://www.blacksabbath.com/
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Ven 18 Mai - 18:27

http://www.classicrockmagazine.com
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Dim 20 Mai - 13:50

Kamran Haq, promoteur de concerts a tweeté une photo de ce qui devait être la setlist d'hier soir pour BLACK SABBATH à Birmingham, en Angleterre :



Lord Of This World n'a pas été joué.

Paranoid hier soir :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=l2RGGvCU5c4#!

Merci à Zepforce du BSF !!!!!!!!
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Dim 20 Mai - 14:48





Allez vous balader sur youtube, il y a une bonne partie des vidéos du concert d'hier soir.

01. Into The Void
02. Under The Sun
03. Snowblind
04. War Pigs
05. Wheels Of Confusion
06. Electric Funeral
07. Black Sabbath
08. The Wizard
09. Behind The Wall Of Sleep
10. N.I.B.
11. Fairies Wear Boots
12. Tomorrow's Dream
13. Sweet Leaf
14. Symptom Of The Universe (intro only)
15. Drum Solo
16. Iron Man
17. Dirty Women
18. Children Of The Grave

Encore:

19. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (intro only)
20. Paranoid

Le concert a été filmé pro. DVD ?
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Dim 20 Mai - 22:52

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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Lun 21 Mai - 17:22

Bon là, on n'est pas loin du grand déballage :

Dear Sabbath Fans and Musicians,

I have read Geezer’s statement of May 19, 2012 titled “Heavy Heart.” Out of respect for the Birmingham gig, I wanted to wait 24 hours before releasing this statement. There are some points he brought up which I want to respond to.

1) I had indeed notified Ozzy, Tony and Geezer, well before my first public statement, that I was having contractual difficulties.

2) I came out into a public forum to be accountable to the fans primarily, and to say at a public level there’s a problem. The band members stopped talking and corresponding with me some time ago, with the exception of a nice letter from Tony on my birthday. Prior to that, Geezer and I were corresponding, but that stopped abruptly in late February after I emailed a specific question to him.

3) In my statement of May 15, I clearly stated I would play Birmingham for free. That was not a problem – charity or otherwise.

4) My Download fee was not an extravagant amount. Originally, when Download was part of a full tour, I had asked for a decent fee. More recently, as we were negotiating just Download/Birmingham and Lollapalooza, I told my attorney that I would accept the proposed small Download fee, but there were other parts of the offer that were unsatisfactory.

I will continue to be honest and respectful towards the band and our fans. I will also confront any untruths about me, and any fault finding missions aimed at me that come to my attention.

I hope the band and the fans had a good gig in Brum.

Stay safe/stay strong.
Bill Ward
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Mar 22 Mai - 13:09

Tony Iommi appréhendait ce show à Birmingham, ne sachant pas s'il allait pouvoir tenir la distance. Finalement, tout s'est très bien passé et c'est très chaleureusement qu'il remercie ses trois compagnons et tout particulièrement Tommy Clufetos.

The guitarist issues a short message about Saturday's gig

Here's the message, which Tony issued via his official website:

I was extremely nervous beforehand about playing a long set, not knowing whether I'd be able to last.

It turned out to be no problem whatsoever because Ozzy, Geezer and Tommy were nailing everything, no chance to feel tired! I'm really pleased with how it turned out, fantastic crowd and I want to say thank you to all of them for giving me such an amazing reception.

On our way again at last!

Finally, a special thanks to Tommy, we invited him to play and he was brilliant.

Best wishes,

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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Mar 22 Mai - 21:47

Un DJ de Cleveland, Bill Louis a déclaré qu'il voulait que Bilou soit viré du groupe. Par ailleurs, il se propose de lui faire parvenir les commentaires recueillis auprès de ceux et celles qui ont été sollicités par ce monsieur Evil or Very Mad :

Bill Louis, a DJ at WNCX in Cleveland, evidently told listeners today he wished "Bill Ward would please go away." Anything you all would like to say to him? I'll collect the comments and send them his way. There's no need for a DJ to be nasty to someone who has been nothing but a gentleman.
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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Mar 29 Mai - 17:26



Metal Hammer consacre un numéro important au groupe :

As a part of an immense, 172-page Black Sabbath spectacular in the new issue of Metal Hammer – also featuring tributes from Metallica, Machine Head,Slayer, Phil Anselmo, Mastodon, Rush, Alice Cooper and more – Hammer also chats to Ozzy Osbourne and Geezer Butler themselves about their incredible legacy and what they have planned for their set at Download 2012.

“I didn’t know we were the forefathers of metal,” says Ozzy when asked about his thoughts on Sabbath’s influence. “When I used to do Ozzfest I hadn’t realised we had such an impact on the young bands. I’m proud of that alone. I wasn’t aware for a long time, I thought everyone was just taking the piss, you know?”

Want to read more? Well you’ll just have to buy your copy of the new Metal Hammer then, won’t you? It’s on sale tomorrow (May 30), but you can order your copy right now.

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MessageSujet: Re: BLACK SABBATH   Dim 3 Juin - 16:42

Le Sab aurait composé 15 nouvelles chansons !!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.nme.com/nme-video/black-sabbath---weve-written-fifteen-new-songs/1665702100001
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